Saturday, August 14, 2010




SELF  REALIZED PERSON IN GITA VS AGGS


tattva-vit tu maha-baho, guna-karma-vibhagayoh
guna gunesu vartanta,  iti matva na sajjate

One who is in knowledge of the Absolute Truth, O mighty-armed does not engage himself in the senses and sense gratification, knowing well the differences between work in devotion and work for fruitive results. -----Gita, p, 194-3.28

jnana-vijnana-trptatma, kuta-stho vijitendriyah
yukta ity ucyate yogi, sama-lostrasma-kancanah.

A person is said to be established in self-realization and is called a yogi (mystic) when he is fully satisfied by virtue of acquired knowledge and realization. Such a person is situated in transcendence and is self-controlled. He sees every thing-whether it be pebbles, stone or gold-as the same.-----Gita, p, 315-6.

Suhrn-mitrary-udasina-madhyastha-dvesya-bandhusu,
Sadhusv api ca papesu sama-buddhir visisyate.

A person is considered still further advanced when he regards honest well-wishers, affectionate benefactors, the neutral, mediators, the envious, friends and enemies, the pious and the sinners all with an equal mind. -----Gita, p, 316-6.9

Naiva tasya krtenartho nakrteneha kascana
Na casya sarva-bhutesu kascid artha-vyapasrayah.

A self-realized man has no purpose to fulfill in the discharge of his duties, nor has he any reason not to perform such work. Nor has he any need to depend on any other living being.-----Gita, p, 184-3.19

Indriyasyendriyasyarthe raga- dvesau vyavasthitau
Tayor na vasam agacchet tau hy asya paripanthinau.

There are principles to regulate attachment and aversion pertaining to senses and their objects. One should not come under the control of such attachment and aversion, because they are stumbling blocks on the path of self-realization.----Gita, p, 200-201-3.34

Buddhya visuddhaya yukto dhrtyatamanam niyamya ca,
sabdadin visayams tyaktva raga-dvesau vyudasya ca.

vivikta-sevi laghviasi yata-vak-kaya-manasah,
dhyana-yoga-paro nityam vairagyam samupasrotah.

Ahankaram balam darpam kamam krodham parigraham,
Vimucya nirmamah santo brahma-bhuyaya kalpate.

Being purified by his intelligence and controlling the mind with determination, giving up the objects of sense gratification, being freed from attachment and hatred, one who lives in a secluded place, who eats little, who controls his body, mind and power of speech, who is always in a trance and who is detached, free from false ego, false strength, false pride, lust, anger, and acceptance of material things, free from false proprietorship, and peaceful-such a person is certainly elevated to the position of self-realization. -----Gita, p, 835-836-18.51

Asamyatatmana yogo dusprapa iti me matih,
Vasyatmana tu yatata sakyo vaptum upayatah.

For one whose mind is unbridled, self realization is difficult work. But whose mind is controlled and who strives by appropriate means is assured of success in the opinion of Supreme Personality of Godhead.-----Gita, p, 346-347- 6.36

Sarva-bhuta-stham atmanam sarva-bhutani catmani,
Iksate yoga- yuktatma sarvatra sama- darsanah.

A true yogi observes Me (Krisna) in all beings and also sees every being in ME. Indeed, the self-realized person sees Me, the same Supreme God, every where.-----Gita, p, 337-6.29

Tad-buddhayas tad-atamanas tan-nisthas tat-parayanah,
Gacchanty apunar-avrttim jnana-nirdhuta-kalmasah.

When one’s intelligence, mind, faith and refuge are all fixed in the Supreme, then one becomes fully cleansed of misgivings through complete knowledge and thus proceeds straight on the path of liberation.-----Gita, p, 292-5.17

Amanitvam adambhitvam ahimsa ksantir arjavam
Acaryopasanam saucam sthairyam atma-vinigrahah.

Indriyarthesu vairagyam anahankara eva ca
janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-dukha-dosanudarsanam.

Asaktir anabhisvangah putra-dara-grhadisu,
Nityam ca sama-cittatvam istanistopapattisu.

Mayi cananya-yogena bhaktir avyabhicarini,
Vivikta-desa-sevitvam, aratir jana-samsadi.

Humility; pridelessness; nonviolence; tolerance; simplicity; approaching a bonafide spiritual master; cleanliness; steadiness; self-control; renunciation of the objects of sense gratification; absence of false ego; the perception of evil birth, death, old age and disease; detachment; freedom from entanglement with children, wife, home, and the rest; even mindedness amid pleasant and unpleasant events; constant and unalloyed attention to Supreme Head (Krishna); aspiring to live in a solitary place; detachment from the general mass of people; accepting the importance of self-realization; and philosophical search for the Absolute Truth- all these I (Krishna) declare to be knowledge, and besides this what ever there may be is ignorance.-----Gita, p, 647-648-13.8

Discussion:

  1. According to the teachings in AGGS self realization can be achieved as house holder while Bhagavad Gita advises solitude.
ਘਾਲਿ ਖਾਇ ਕਿਛੁ ਹਥਹੁ ਦੇਇ
ਨਾਨਕ ਰਾਹੁ ਪਛਾਣਹਿ ਸੇਇ
Gẖāl kẖā▫e kicẖẖ hathahu ḏe▫e. Nānak rāhu pacẖẖāṇėh se▫e.

One who works for what he eats, and gives some of what he has- O Nanak, he knows the Path.
                                                                                        -----Guru Nanak, Raag Sarang, Page, 1245-19

  1. According to the teachings in AGGS God is Ajooni/ਅਜੂਨੀ/ anthropomorphic), while being incarnated as Krishna in Bhagavad Gita.
ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯ nām karṯā purakẖ nirbẖa▫o nirvair akāl mūraṯ ajūnī saibẖaʼn gur parsāḏ.

One Universal Creator God. The Name Is Truth. Creative Being Personified. No Fear. No Hatred. Image Of The Undying, Beyond Birth, Self-Existent. By Guru's Grace. ~Guru Nanak, Manglacharan/ਮੰਗਲਾਚਰਣ.-----AGGS, Page 1-1

  1.  In AGGS on one side there is no difference between God and Guru in Spiritual Wisdom though Guru has a body while God is with out a form.
ਬਡੇ ਭਾਗ ਗੁਰੁ ਸੇਵਹਿ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਭੇਦੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਗੁਰਦੇਵ ਮੁਰਾਰ
ਤਾ ਕਉ ਕਾਲੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਜਮੁ ਜੋਹੈ ਬੂਝਹਿ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੀਚਾਰ
Badė bẖāg gur sėveh apunā bẖėḏ nāhī gurḏėv murār. Ŧā ka▫o kāl nāhī jam johai būjẖėh anṯar sabaḏ bīcẖār.

The most fortunate ones serve their Guru; there is no difference between the Divine Guru and the God. The Messenger of Death cannot see those who come to realize within their minds the contemplative meditation of the Word of the Sabd.-----Guru Nanak, Raag Gujri, AGGS, Page, 504-5

  1. Guru Arjan says that the Avatar does not know God’s limits- Is it a contradiction or confusing? 
ਮਹਿਮਾ ਨ ਜਾਨਹਿ ਬੇਦ
ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਨਹਿ ਭੇਦ
ਅਵਤਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਨਹਿ ਅੰਤੁ
ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬੇਅੰਤੁ
Mahimā na jānėh beḏ. Barahme nahī jānėh bẖeḏ.Avṯār na jānėh anṯ. Parmesar pārbarahm be▫anṯ.

The Vedas do not know God’s greatness. Brahma does not know God’s mystery. Incarnated beings do not know God’s limit. The Transcendent and Supreme God, is infinite.-----Guru Arjan, Raag Ramkali, AGGS, Page, 894-4

  1. AGGS teaches that mind can only be controlled through God’s Grace while Gita advises self control.
ਇਹੁ ਮਨੂਆ ਕਿਉ ਕਰਿ ਵਸਿ ਆਵੈ ॥
ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਠਾਕੀਐ ਗਿਆਨ ਮਤੀ ਘਰਿ ਆਵੈ ॥

Ih Manoo-aa Ki-o Kar Vas Aavai, Gur Parsaadee Thaakee-ai Gi-aan Matee Ghar Aavai.
How can this mind come under control? By Guru's Grace, it is held in check; instructed in spiritual wisdom, it returns to its home.-----Guru Amar Das, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 426-11
ਦਸ ਦਿਸ ਖੋਜਤ ਮੈ ਫਿਰਿਓ ਜਤ ਦੇਖਉ ਤਤ ਸੋਇ
ਮਨੁ ਬਸਿ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਜੇ ਪੂਰਨ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਹੋਇ
Das Dis Khojat Main Firio Jat Dekhou Tat Soey, Man Bus Aavai Nanaka Jay Pooran Kirpa Hoey.

I have tried to find in all ten directions (a solution to control the mind) but could not trace any means of controlling the mind. The mind comes to be controlled, O Nanak, if the God blesses with Its Perfect Grace.                                                          -----Guru Arjan, Thiti Gauri, AGGS, Page, 298-17

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